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Sherlock Says: Charlie Manson Story Doesn’t Add Up

On Nov. 19, 2017, 83-year-old Charles Manson reportedly spent his final moments at Mercy Hospital in Bakersfield, outside the prison, where he was alleged to be held. Authorities were not forthcoming with details, and the whole story line was hush hush. Information about prison protocols for taking a convict with a life sentence to a local hospital was also not forthcoming. But that has ALWAYS been the case with Manson.

Author Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s fictional character Sherlock Holmes employed a method of deduction not commonly utilized in today’s brainwashed world. Holmes often used “reasoning backward,” or convergent thinking. It means starting with things that don’t add up, or that make little sense, and then going backward to the root.

Let’s try a bit of convergent thinking with the story of Charlie Manson’s supposed sojourn in California’s maximum security prison system. As we always ask at Winter Watch, and our motto: Nothing to see here, move along? You decide.

Although you will never see an interview with a slew of more-recent mass shooters, or vehicular-assault boogeymen, over the years, Manson has been dollied up and rolled out for dozens of televised interviews. His appearance was altered each time. The news specials on Charlie in and of themselves would be an unheard privilege for any inmate. Many of Charlie’s interviewers were obscure figures who were never seen or heard from again.

Read “Why Haven’t Certain Notorious Mass Killers of the Last Decade Been Interviewed?”

After 1989, Manson was housed in the Protective Housing Unit at California State Prison, Corcoran, in Kings County. The unit houses inmates whose safety would be endangered by general population housing. In August 1997, he was allegedly moved to Pelican Bay State Prison, a deep-six Super Max prison.

Numerous interviews can be viewed online, so other Sherlocks can have at it. He constantly mocks the viewer on how he’s pulling lies and deceit off on them. Charlie is never restrained and often stands up and does little clown shows and dances.

In the Geraldo Rivera interview, the two talk mano y mano, nearly touching knees. In the following video, you’ll see a rambling Manson actually touching Rivera and getting right up against him. Really? In a max-security prison, such behavior is a real treat and privilege. Sure.

MANSON 1988 INTERVIEW -San Quintin

In recent years, Charlie was given even more privileges, such as posing for zany photos with his cut-out-looking “fiancee,” who said she planned to exhibit his mummified body after his death. This kind of physical contact is not permitted in maximum security prisons anywhere in the U.S. Even in lower-security prisons, there is strict protocol on contact with family and conjugal visits.


Fellow Sherlocks, the following is California’s penal regulation regarding facial and hair grooming. Is there much administrative discretion in these rules? Only for Charlie, apparently. On the right, note a photo of cleanly groomed, older, Mexican-gang inmates in prison.

– An inmate’s hair and facial hair shall be clean, neatly styled, and groomed, as specified in these regulations.

– An inmate shall not alter the appearance of his/her hair or facial hair by changing its natural color.

– An inmate’s hair or facial hair may be any length but the inmate’s hair shall not extend over the eyebrows or cover the inmate’s face. If hair or facial hair is long, it shall be worn in a neat, plain style, which does not draw undue attention to the inmate.


In 1989, Charlie did an interview with Penny Daniels. Start at minute 00:02:40 (below), as he struts in looking like a wild caveman with long hair and beard. Notice this convicted killer is given the unique privilege to wear a leather necklace. The sunglasses are a nice touch, too. At minute 00:04:30, notice his pinky ring. This is most definitely in violation of penal regulations for prisoners.

At minute 00:03:45, Charlie starts discussing “his role in this film” and gives out a “Hollywood address.” Really? The maximum-security prison regulations allow on-the-spot business negotiations? At 00:06:15, Charlie has some fun reading the riot act to a prison official and telling him to shut up. The “official” just tolerates it.

The psy-ops here, of course, is to build the persona that Charlie is some sort of Spingali — ahem, I mean Svengali — that can “control people.” Notice how lucid he acts — I mean sounds — in the following video before he goes off into his monkey act.

Charles Manson | Daniels Interview | 1/6

In 1998, the California prison system cracked down on its administrative standards, as described in this Christian Science Monitor article. The photos below shows an older Charlie under this new regime. In more recent years, this has been relaxed to one-half-inch beards — but not for Charlie.

– According to new grooming rules passed by the California Department of Corrections (CDC), there will be no more long hair, beards, large mustaches.


 The Changing Swastika Forehead Tatoo

The first photo shows an early Charlie appearance with the swastika he managed to have tattooed while in maximum security prison. Now, compare it with the second photo in which the swastika moves away from the left brow and the cross stem changes size. In particular, compare the thickness of the lower stem in all three photos. In the last photo the swastika has moved higher yet, off the brow and again has a different shrunken size and curvature.

Yes, skin sags a bit with age, and in Charlie’s case, apparently upward. Charlie looks pretty spry for a man who has allegedly spent a life in prison.

As we have seen on many occasions on these pages where I go over hoaxes, storytellers can get sloppy; and frankly, at times, it seems they don’t even care. They have complete disdain for the general audience, and Charlie definitely expresses this in his black magic performances.

Sherlock would look at these anomalies and ask, “What’s going on here? Is it some sort of psy-op?” Was Charlie slipped in and out the back door for these performances?

Listen to Charlie’s speech on sneaky truth and extreme moral relativism (aka perv justice warrior).

Charles Manson speaks the truth

The ludicrous anomalies in the Manson family’s Tate murder are endless.

One of my favorites: How did Tex Watson, who allegedly did the dirty deed at the Tate residence, manage to sire four children in maximum security prison where conjugal visits are not permitted?

Bobby Beausoleil also managed to father four children in prison, as well as produce musical tracks.

For more on hippie-era cultural debasement and psy-ops, see “In Plain View: Jaw-Dropping Video of LSD Promoters Holding 1979 Meeting.”

16 Comments on Sherlock Says: Charlie Manson Story Doesn’t Add Up

  1. I see the logic in some of what MM writes, but I also feel that he takes huge leaps of assumptions also. Plus, his world view seems to insist on completely disregarding the documented Satanists in the elite… Instead he chalks all “occultism” to CIA operations. This is a big error and bias in his work, I feel.

    • The CIA has unaccounted for monies, and have the ability to do anything they want in secret. It is natural for the CIA to move into occultic practices like Satanism and Baal worship. Both are built around human sacrifice.

  2. Miles Mathis claims it was all just another pysop. His take on the Tate murders is quite interesting.
    Also, many who have seen Quentin Tarantino’s latest, “Once Upon A Time In Hollywood” cannot figure out the ending where the Tate killers end up at the wrong house and no one dies in the Tate mansion. I say maybe he is also trying to tell us the whole thing was another “made for TV drama”. Just one mans opinion.

  3. Backward reasoning or convergent thinking, huh… I usually just take the msm line and invert it- it’s usually closer to the truth that way… they try to disable one’s deductive logic by lining their “stories” with a few morsels of truth, it’s like painting a turd.

    • Backward reasoning,

      LoL- it’s reasoning backwards by process of elimination from the anomaly.

      I usually just take the msm line and invert it- it’s usually closer to the truth that way

      That’s advanced Holmes- beyond what most can comprehend.

    I might be wrong, but I believe Manson & his gang were programmed to slaughter Sharon Tate & Co, to destroy the Hippie Movement.
    The CIA “managed” the case, the reporting and the publishing of books on the case!

    Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties by Tom O’Neill

    A journalist’s twenty-year fascination with the Manson murders leads to shocking new revelations about the FBI’s involvement in this riveting reassessment of an infamous case in American history.

    Over two grim nights in Los Angeles, the young followers of Charles Manson murdered seven people, including the actress Sharon Tate, then eight months pregnant. With no mercy and seemingly no motive, the Manson Family followed their leader’s every order — their crimes lit a flame of paranoia across the nation, spelling the end of the sixties. Manson became one of history’s most infamous criminals, his name forever attached to an era when charlatans mixed with prodigies, free love was as possible as brainwashing, and utopia — or dystopia — was just an acid trip away.

    Twenty years ago, when journalist Tom O’Neill was reporting a magazine piece about the murders, he worried there was nothing new to say. Then he unearthed shocking evidence of a cover-up behind the “official” story, including police carelessness, legal misconduct, and potential surveillance by intelligence agents. When a tense interview with Vincent Bugliosi — prosecutor of the Manson Family and author of Helter Skelter — turned a friendly source into a nemesis, O’Neill knew he was onto something. But every discovery brought more questions:

    Who were Manson’s real friends in Hollywood, and how far would they go to hide their ties?
    Why didn’t law enforcement, including Manson’s own parole officer, act on their many chances to stop him?
    And how did Manson — an illiterate ex-con — turn a group of peaceful hippies into remorseless killers?

    O’Neill’s quest for the truth led him from reclusive celebrities to seasoned spies, from San Francisco’s summer of love to the shadowy sites of the CIA’s mind-control experiments, on a trail rife with shady cover-ups and suspicious coincidences. The product of two decades of reporting, hundreds of new interviews, and dozens of never-before-seen documents from the LAPD, the FBI, and the CIA, Chaos mounts an argument that could be, according to Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney Steven Kay, strong enough to overturn the verdicts on the Manson murders. This is a book that overturns our understanding of a pivotal time in American history.


    Dr. Martin Haskell giving a presentation at the 16th Annual Meeting of the National Abortion Federation Conference in 1992 in San Diego. It was a gathering of abortionists — men and women who make their living by killing babies. Haskell was describing to his audience how to do a partial-birth abortion. Listen to his words about how this procedure takes place:

    “The surgeon then introduces large grasping forceps … through the vaginal and cervical canal … He moves the tip of the instrument carefully towards the fetal lower extremities — and pulls the extremity into the vagina …The surgeon then uses his fingers to deliver the opposite lower extremity, then the torso, the shoulders, and the upper extremities. The skull lodges in the internal os. The fetus is oriented … spine up … The surgeon then takes a pair of blunt curved Metzenbaum scissors in the right hand. … the surgeon then forces the scissors into the base of the skull–spreads the scissors to enlarge the opening. The surgeon–surgeon then introduces a suction catheter into this hole and evacuates the skull contents.”
    Haskell, having described these brutal details, shows his audience a video of himself doing one of these procedures. And at the end of the video, after the sound of the suction machine taking the brains out of the baby’s head, the audience applauds.

    The D&E method, used on unborn children 14 weeks or older, involves using a long steel tool to grasp and tear off, by brute force, the arms and legs of the developing human—after which the skull is crushed.
    Dr. Anthony Levatino, an obstetrician-gynecologist who has performed many D&E abortions, describes the procedure:

    “Picture yourself reaching in with the Sopher clamp and grasping anything you can…Once you have grasped something inside, squeeze on the clamp to set the jaws and pull hard – really hard. You feel something let go and out pops a fully formed leg about six inches long. Reach in again and grasp whatever you can. Set the jaw and pull really hard once again and out pops an arm about the same length. Reach in again and again with that clamp and tear out the spine, intestines, heart and lungs.”

    by Roger Price
    February 1, 2013 | 11:09 am
    Note: Another version of this post was published previously at
    The Curious Consensus of Jews on Abortion
    Thursday, January 10, 2013 @ 10:01 AM
    posted by Roger Price

  5. At the time of the Manson murders my eighth grade English teacher asked our class who they looked up to as icons or life mentors, who they most admired as a roll model. My class clown friend piped up; Charlie Manson! He got a pretty good laugh from most of us.

  6. I believe this video perfectly shows the actors and prosthetics used in this psyop. That horrific crimes are committed is irrefutable, that MSM lies also irrefutable. The Australian actor in prosthetics under stage name Cardinal George Pell never locked up, star of the film The Castle, same ears. Convicted criminals cannot serve a prison sentence in a disguise under a stage or false name, however, the media can lie. The same Manson actor used as the fictional “Jeffrey Epstein, blackmailer/trafficker” in a different disguise. The research here here always fascinating, thank you.

  7. Had no idea he did so many interviews, I watched the one with Geraldo and it was just really weird. Manson has not one thing interesting to say and Geraldo asking stupid questions.
    I wasn’t born yet when all this went down but it was something I knew about. This article made think about more recent high-profile crimes like Jodi Arias and Casey Anthony, were those just actors playing parts?

    I will try “reasoning backward” on one and get back.. lol

    RIP Ashli not dead Babbitt

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