The New York Times on Monday put out a so-called “fact check” fluff piece on Pizzagate that employs straw-man fallacies to make its argument, ignores glaring evidence, labels The New Nationalist (TNN) as a fake news site and wrongly associates it with threat and harassment activities on the Web.
NYT: Days before the presidential election, James Alefantis, owner of a local pizza restaurant called Comet Ping Pong, noticed an unusual spike in the number of his Instagram followers.
Within hours, menacing messages like “we’re on to you” began appearing in his Instagram feed. In the ensuing days, hundreds of death threats — one read “I will kill you personally” — started arriving via texts, Facebook and Twitter. All of them alleged something that made Mr. Alefantis’s jaw drop: that Comet Ping Pong was the home base of a child abuse ring led by Hillary Clinton and her campaign chief, John D. Podesta.
When Mr. Alefantis discovered that his employees were getting similar abusive messages, he looked online to unravel the accusations. He found dozens of madeup articles about Mrs. Clinton kidnapping, molesting and trafficking children in the restaurant’s back rooms. The articles appeared on Facebook and on websites such as The New Nationalist and The Vigilant Citizen, with one headline blaring: “Pizzagate: How 4Chan Uncovered the Sick World of Washington’s Occult Elite.”
Fact Checking The New York Times’ Fact Checker
While we can’t speak for every Pizzagate article on the internet, we here at TNN never accused Hillary Clinton herself of child tracking or “molesting children at Comet,” nor do we condone, encourage or participate in threats. And, unlike the NYT, we don’t summarily rubber stamp as “facts” the statements made in press releases or by establishment officials and their cronies.
Here’s how we envision the extent of the Times’ fact checking:
REPORTER: Hi, this is Cecilia Kang from The New York Times. My editor, who is friends with John Podesta, told me to call you about some silly online conspiracy theory that you and Hillary Clinton are trafficking children in the back room of your pizza parlor. So are you?
COMET PIZZA: No. You can only order pizza.
REPORTER: Okay, great. Feel free to send me an email with your comments about how this conspiracy theory is affecting your business. We will send a photographer over to get a promotional image. Thank you. Bye.
It is a straw man logical fallacy to write that conspiracy theorists claim Hillary herself hangs out at Comet Pizza and molests children in the back rooms. TNN has looked into the Pizzagate matter quite deeply, and nowhere that we can find does anyone make such a claim in a serious manner.
The NYT apparently expects that the establishment would conduct such activities daily and out in the open for all dining patrons to witness. Rather, if there are pedophile activities, they are alluded to with strange images and coded language.
The NYT claims that the hideous photos of children circulated on Instagram under Alefantis’ screen name “jimmycomet” are of customers and “friends.” If this is the case — which we doubt — then there should be a serious child protection or social service investigation as well.
Regarding the threats and insults against Alefantis and his associates, only a person with a dark heart would not get riled up about such publicly posted images and disturbing references. Alefantis and his friends at the NYT must also be in complete denial, if they think people won’t react to them and that they won’t be shared. The Instagram images go far, far beyond any acceptable range of comportment. The tone of the article itself is highly revealing to any thinking person. Get a grip, NYT.
The MSM version of #JamesAlefantis vs. pic from his Insta acct. You decide. #pizzagate #cometpingpong #fakenews #podesta #ClintonCorruption pic.twitter.com/MtXgKCrvpu
— Lena42 (@EML0804) November 22, 2016
That said, TNN urges caring people to avoid threats, keep an eye on the ball and ask two key questions:
- Is there a serious investigation into these individuals and their activities?
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Did The New York Times or any other media do their own examination of the dark, evil material revealed by the citizen investigators?
Did the editorial staff even react to the images? If not, shame on them. The article mentions photos of children, but NYT didn’t convey the nature of the photos to readers. The article is nothing more than a PR piece that tries to shift blame by using their latest epithet and buzzword: “fake news.” How exactly did the NYT determine that this is fake news? Are the “jimmycomet” Instagrams and photos faked? Did this appalling, must-see Majestic Ape performance (Amanda Kleinman in the NYT puff piece) at Comet occur or not?
#PizzaGate This is a cover-up puff piece for Comet. The word fake appears 19 times, are they trying to hypnotize me? https://t.co/4ESf1pO0nG
— Herger The Joyous (@texaslibertas) November 22, 2016
Be Careful What You Wish For
Ironically, in a post just last week, our own Russ Winter jokingly lamented that TNN didn’t make Zimdar’s hit list of “fake news” sites.
TNN did not make the list, as perhaps as we are too new. We don’t feel slighted. We are no longer under the radar as our growing traffic of late exceeds many of those on the honor list. We are waiting inclusion with baited breath. Make our day.
Generally speaking — when it doesn’t involve misdirection from evidence of crimes against children — we here at TNN take the dubious label given to alternative media in stride. But most of all thanks NYT, for inadvertently raising public awareness of Pizzagate. Judging from the social media response to the “article,” it has its hands full. It is noteworthy that there is no comments section below the NYT article.
TNN is putting all parties on notice that we will publish for all to see any attempts at coercion or intimidation by goons against us. Ultimately, this is not about us, it is about them.
Below are curated Instagram images that illustrates our observations. The reference to children is constant and beyond obsessive. As we often ask, “Nothing to see here, move along?” In first photo, be sure to note references to #killroom, and #murder. Second photo shows Jimmy doing some underground excavating. Neither of the businesses that James Alefantis owns ever filed a construction permit. If the instagram photo is of either establishment, that work was done illegally. The pills in third photo are alprazolam (Xanax) , a common date rape drug.
For more information about Podesta, Marina and satanic #spiritcooking, see here, here and here.
— Russ Winter contributed to this post.
Pizzagate searches in major breakout
https://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore?date=today%201-m&q=pizzagate
Yeah, the NY Times is all lies. You have to go to AM radio and the likes of Alex Jones to get any real facts, which is why they garner so much respect throughout the world.
Crazy motherfuckers. That “killroom” pic also references werewolves. Where’s the conspiracy theory about that?
It makes zero sense to have the government involved in covering up a child pedo ring…that posts regularly and openly on Instagram.
You dumb assholes.
You mean like in Franklin CommunityCredit Union Scandal?
How male prostitution and sex trafficking activity increases anytime the GOP is in town?
“The NY Times article. If it wasn’t true, then they wouldn’t defend it. Case Closed, it is true.”
Okay, crazy idiot.
the werewolf myth comes from Romulus and Remus – you should history more often
What’s dumb is the persistent but erroneous belief that there is some sort of monolithic entity called “The Government” that operates as one unit, everyone fully informed and on the same page.
What you call “government” (literally ‘mind control’, latin guberneres + menses) is a well-controlled collection of groups that are deliberately misinformed and compelled by threat of loss of work/pension to look the other way, or worse are blackmailed or threatened with blackmail. Some of them have been deliberately brain damaged to operate more as automatons, mindless order-followers. All begin as believers in this faith called government.
The US Government is currently in interregnum, as it hasn’t been operating under the Constitution of 1789, but under an alternate Constitution since 1871, foisted upon us by the bankers when the Revolutionary War debts came due.
Anarchy is the only way, and before you get excited anarchy means “No Masters, No Slaves”, anti – archon, literally. It does NOT mean Mad-Max-NO-RULES mentality AT ALL. Natural law is always in effect; those rules ALWAYS apply. No other laws are required, nor desired.
You are largely correct. TNN’s term for it is the “crime syndicate.”
Interesting. The New York Times toned down its Pizzagate headline. It removed the words “Fact Check” and no longer proclaims its innocence.
ORIGINAL HEADLINE: “Fact Check: This Pizzeria Is Not a Child-Trafficking Site”
NEW HEADLINE: “Fake News Onslaught Targets Pizzeria as Nest of Child-Trafficking”
so it is a sex ring or not? where are the victims? what is the evidence? show me photos, videos, witness/victim statements. I want to believe!
I am not the police running the investigation. This is the process. In due course we know this case will come to light and the evidence revealed. Often evidence is not revealed until there is a trial. Are concerned citizens supposed to keep their mouth shut in the meanwhile?
thanks for your work, I’m linking you and your site for false flags, etc https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6e760ced54ac469c88b29bd6113d05e1775755610839b22ca266f0dda2c2bf65.jpg
Don’t hide your profile. I want to look at everything you post https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09afb66c8bbba3534d55e896431ee43b97ea2a20bd98996a86ddfa5fd9864e50.jpg
All the authors including Torchy’s articles are easily found and are located on front page lower left corner.
thankyou
Way to go Torchy/Russ, you all are big time now!
The NY Times article. If it wasn’t true, then they wouldn’t defend it. Case Closed, it is true.
This is such an excellent way of thinking if you’re delusional and paranoid.
Congratulations.
Headline: Boo hoo, the NYT labels us fake news.
Sidebar: Did George Soros bribe Al Gore to fake global warming? Steve Bannon isn’t a white nationalist.
LOL, I wonder why they ever could have thought you’re fake news.
quite the headline reader, son. Looks like you really go deep.
If you’d bother to read beyond the headline, you’d know we bragging, not whining. Move along, troll. You’re out of your depth.
That NY Times article was the biggest load of bullshit i’ve ever seen. And they’re essentially complicit in trying to cover up this pedo ring and trying to sweep it back under the rug. “All the news thats fit to print” huh? More like “all the news we’re paid to print”. Newspapers like the times are owned by their advertisers and corporate interests who are in themselves part of the corporate elite. One hand washes the other so to speak. The times is garbage.
Congratulations Nazis. You’ve really got them now.
Ummmm, you guys are insane!! One of you people just put lives in danger by walking into the restaurant with a gun. The only danger customers and their children will run into at Comet Pizza is obesity from eating fat & calorie laden pizza and getting shot by people who get all riled up and excited when people pull their mentally ill puds.
Wow, you people and this website are absolutely nuts. Certifiably insane.
If it was GOP “alleged” child sex ring the bellowing form the NYT would be heard on the moon.
What passes for culture these days.
https://www.scribd.com/document/335047408/Pizzagate-For-Dummies-Ebook-About-Satanic-Cults-Pedophilia-Linked-To-USA-Politicians#from_embed