A Wild Raw Deal: the Debate

Jim Fetzer went on a “debate” with Victor Hugo which primarily revealed the latter’s behaviors. It is my expectation that Victor and his remaining posse of psychos and sadists has crashed and burned sufficiently that we no longer have to bother you with more of this. The question of Bitchute and Rumble enforcing their terms of service still remains.

Comment on debate: hotjawclamps2022– This Victor Hugo guy has totally discredited himself. He acted like a complete ass. If someone is paying him to troll Fetzer, they need to get their money back. Hugo is not even a good agent provocateur. He comes across as a complete buffoon.

The “debate” is here. I have never seen anything quite like it. The Raw Deal here followed immediately after the “debate”. We devote the first hour to it, and shift to a standard show in the second hour.

The stolen valor question: Victor Hugo dropped out during his freshman year at Annapolis. Midshipmen at the academies do not qualify as veterans.

It doesn’t appear that the Stolen Valor law is enforced against blowhards and  braggards. It may come into question if the blowhard tries to get financial gain from false claims of veteran status. Victor begs for money as a veteran.

• Midshipmen at the U.S. Naval Academy are technically appointed as active duty members of the U.S. Navy during their time at the Academy.
• However, their time at the Academy does not count as active duty service for the purposes of veteran status under most VA definitions.

A veteran is a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service, and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable.

• The VA does not count time spent solely as a service academy cadet/midshipman as “active military, naval, or air service” unless the individual:
  • Served on active duty before or after the Academy, or
  • Was separated for a service-connected disability during their time at the Academy.

• Do not qualify as a veteran
• Are not eligible for VA benefits like the GI Bill or VA healthcare

• They were separated due to a service-connected disability, and
• They received an honorable discharge

🚫 Simply attending the Naval Academy and receiving an honorable discharge does not automatically make someone a veteran under U.S. law.

• Midshipmen at the U.S. Naval Academy (USNA) are indeed considered active-duty members of the U.S. Navy.
• They hold a special status as officer candidates — they’re not yet commissioned officers, but they are in training to become them.
• While at the Academy, midshipmen are subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and receive military pay (though limited).

• Midshipmen aren’t typical active-duty service members in the way enlisted sailors or commissioned officers are. They’re in a training pipeline that has its own structure and expectations.
• They don’t have the same duties or deployment responsibilities as other active-duty personnel.

• This applies specifically to service academy midshipmen, like those at the USNA. NROTC midshipmen (students in Naval ROTC at civilian colleges) are in a different category — they are not on active duty except during summer training.

1. Serve in the active military, naval, or air service, and
2. Be discharged under conditions other than dishonorable

• Midshipmen are technically on “active duty” status for training purposes, but:
  • Their time at the Academy does not count as active military service for veteran benefits or legal status.
  • They have not completed any qualifying military service unless they serve beyond the Academy (e.g. after commissioning or if called to active duty separately).

• They are separated due to a service-connected disability, and
• They receive an honorable discharge

Midshipmen are not veterans unless they meet other qualifying conditions, like serving in active duty after graduation or being medically separated under qualifying circumstances.

No, time spent as a cadet or midshipman at a military academy (like the Naval Academy) does not count as active duty service for veteran status, even if the person is later honorably discharged.

Only certain types of service count.

• Legally, midshipmen and cadets are technically on active duty.
• BUT this is a special kind of active duty for training, and Congress has specifically excluded it from counting as qualifying service on its own.

“…served in the active military, naval, or air service, and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable.”

“Service as a cadet at a service academy is not qualifying service for VA benefits unless the individual has active duty service outside of the academy.”

• Dropped out or was discharged before commissioning — ❌ not a veteran
• Graduated and served even one day of active duty afterward — ✅ they are a veteran
• Was medically discharged due to a service-connected condition while at the Academy — ✅ possible exception

“Service as a cadet at the United States Military, Air Force, or Coast Guard Academy, or as a midshipman at the United States Naval Academy is not active duty unless the individual is disabled from a disease or injury incurred in line of duty.”

Attending a military academy doesn’t make you a veteran — even if you’re honorably discharged — unless you also served active duty outside the academy OR were medically discharged for a service-connected reason.