NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s Pants Were on Fire During 9/11: A Case Study in Lie Spotting

TOTAL CAPTURE: Masked criminals roam the streets of New York City after 9/11, surveying their damage. NYC Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (center) takes US Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY, but not really from NY), walking to the right of the mayor, and US Sen. Chuck Schumer walking to the left of the mayor, on a photo op and tour of WTC Ground Zero on Sept. 12, 2001. PHOTO: TIME/Robert F. Bukaty/AFP/Getty

‘No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.’ — Abraham Lincoln (1809 – 1865)

In the course of our work on these pages, we’ve noted many instances in which Crime Syndicate operatives have gone off script. One of the weak points of the Syndicate is the tendency of its arrogant members to reveal clues to false flags, Gladio events or staged deceptions. It seems that there are prima donnas who can’t learn the script and thus sometimes ad lib the situation. Accordingly their stories don’t hold up to Trivium method scrutiny.

One such ad libber was Rudolph Giulani, who was mayor of New York City on 9/11. And he punted a doozy of a lie about it.

Giulani went on the air at 1 p.m. on Sept. 11, 2001, with ABC News’ Peter Jennings and declared the following. It can be heard starting at 1:45 in the first video.

I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barclay Street, which was right there with the Police Commissioner, the Fire Commissioner, the Head of Emergency Management, and we were operating out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse. And it [the South Tower] did collapse before we could actually get out of the [Barclay Street] building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes, and finally found an exit and got out.

Once again, we have the Trivium Method, which begs the question of who. Who told you this, Mr. Guilani?

How Giuliani knew that WTC Buildings I and II were going to come down is a question that has not been asked publicly of Giuliani by the mainstream media or any other government body.

9/11: Rudy Giuliani Interview with Peter Jennings (ABC)

In Chapter 22 of the book “9/11 Contradictions,” author David Ray Griffin chronicles a number of key officials on the scene on 9/11 who stated that they had no idea there was any chance of the buildings collapsing.

This was even confirmed by the 9/11 Commission, which stated in its report that none of the fire chiefs present that day believed the complete collapse of either tower was possible. Even the report on the collapses by the National Institute of Standards and Technology – which supports the official story – states that the collapse was completely unexpected.

Giuliani’s account to the 9/11 Commission contradicts his Peter Jennings interview that morning. He did not tell the commission that he had been warned that the World Trade Center was going to collapse, and they apparently didn’t ask.

Furthermore, if Guilani had some inside scoop, why didn’t he warn the firefighters who were climbing the two towers to get people out? Because Giuliani wasn’t supposed to tell anyone. A total of 343 firefighters died that day along with 23 police officers that had not been warned of the buildings’ implosion.

WNBC TV reported that in May 2007, he was asked about the Jennings interview by a small group of people with a video camera. Guilani doubled down on cartoon physics and said it was more about when.  Sabrina Rivero, after reminding Giuliani of his statement to Jennings that “no steel structure in history has ever collapsed due to a fire,” asked:

“How come people in the buildings weren’t notified? And who else knew about this? And how do you sleep at night?”

Giuliani replied:

“I didn’t know the towers were going to collapse.”

Luke Rudkowski then reminded Giuliani that he had indeed told Jennings that he had been notified in advance that the towers were going to collapse and added:

Who told you the towers were going to collapse in advance, sir?”

Giuliani replied using more evasive shadow language:

I didn’t realize the towers would collapse. … Our understanding was that over a long period of time, the way other buildings collapsed, the towers could collapse, meaning over a 7, 8, 9, 10-hour period. No one that I know of had any idea they would implode. That was a complete surprise.

Giulani blows it out his ass: “Our understanding was that over a long period of time, the way other buildings collapsed, the towers could collapse.”

Once again who is the “our” in “our understanding”?

Again, a nonsensical cartoon world narrative from Giuliani given that large steel structured skyscrapers had never just collapsed from fire, even after 7 or after 10 hours. He implied that steel-framed high-rise buildings had previously collapsed.

In fact, Rivero’s statement, that “no steel structure in history has ever collapsed due to a fire,” is not controversial. Two months after 9/11, for example, New York Times reporter James Glanz wrote that “experts said no … modern, steel-reinforced high-rise, had ever collapsed because of an uncontrolled fire.”

Robert F. Shea, the acting administrator of FEMA’s Federal Insurance and Mitigation Administration, said:

“No one who viewed it that day, including myself, believed that those towers would fall,” and this view was confirmed by multiple firefighters and other experts.”

WeAreChange Confronts Giuliani on 9/11 Collapse Lies

In actuality, there were signs of a backstory or cover rumor making the rounds that day.

Deputy Assistant Chief Albert Turi reported that, at a time when they had no indication of any structural instability:

Steve Mosiello, Chief Ganci’s executive assistant, came over to the command post and he said we’re getting reports from OEM that the buildings are not structurally sound [after which] Pete [Ganci] said, “Well, who are we getting these reports from?” … Steve [Mosiello] brought an EMT person over to the command post … Chief Ganci questioned him, where are we getting these reports? And his answer was … “We’re not sure, OEM is just reporting this.” 

Steven Mosiello’s statement shows that this “EMT person” was Emergency Medical Technician Richard Zarrillo, who said:

John [Perrugia] came to me and said you need to go find Chief Ganci and relay the following message: that the buildings have been compromised, we need to evacuate, they’re going to collapse. I said, okay.

After Zarrillo and Mosiello told Ganci that the buildings were going to collapse, Ganci said, “Who the fuck told you that?”

Mosiello told Ganci and others, “I was just at OEM. The message I was given was that the buildings are going to collapse; we need to get our people out.”

However, OEM was under Giuliani’s control. So although Giuliani said that he and others at 75 Barclay Street “were told” that the towers were going to collapse, it was his own people in his own office who were providing this warning. But how could people in the OEM have known that the towers were going to collapse given that the universal belief was that a total collapse of the towers would have been impossible?

Connecting More Dots on Rudy Giuliani

Rudy’s father, one Harold Giuliani, was a felon, according to author Wayne Barrett in his book “Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani” (2000). Harold and an accomplice held up a milk deliverer in Manhattan on April 2, 1934. He was caught, and the courts convicted him of third-degree robbery.

The court-appointed psychiatrist reported that Harold was “a personality deviate of the aggressive, egocentric type…. pathological” with “haphazard associations.”

Rudy’s father served one year and four months at Sing Sing. After he was paroled, he married Helen D’Avanzo. Rudy, born in 1944, was their only child.

In 1948, Harold went to work for Helen’s brother, Leo D’Avanzo, as an enforcer for Leo’s loan-sharking, numbers and betting operations. Harold broke legs and beat people with a baseball bat, collecting large sums. The family crime business was based in Leo’s bar in Brooklyn and employed more than a dozen numbers runners.

There must have been something about Rudy that the kakistocracy liked. In 1983, he was a candidate to be U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. Organized crime lawyer Roy Cohn put his law partner Tom Bolan onto the Screening Panel for the post, created by Cohn’s friend, Sen. Al D’Amato. D’Amato then sponsored and secured the job for Giuliani.

D’Amato later said that he made requests concerning cases involving mobsters as a personal favor for Roy Cohn, a friend who represented several mob figures.

Giuliani is widely credited for “taking down the New York Mafia.” However, as former Mafia boss Michael Franzese points out in a candid interview, the traditional Mafia was already in decline by the time Rudy came on the scene as the mop-up crew.


Read “Former Mafia Boss Michael Franzese’s Interviews Reveal Hidden History Truth Bombs”

Winter Watch Takeaway: Prima donna Rudy Giulani went off script and flat out lied. Given his pedigree and role in the New York City cesspool, one has to wonder what goods the sistema holds on him.

Rudy Giuliani in Drag Smooching Donald Trump

9/11/21 Update: Rudy seems haunted by his ghosts – very Shakespearean.

10 Comments on NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s Pants Were on Fire During 9/11: A Case Study in Lie Spotting

  1. Our understanding was that since the buildings were old and it was a windy day, the laws of physics would seize to apply in NY that morning…There are so many inconsistencies in the official 9/11 narrative that it is difficult to phantom how anyone can believe it. The challenge is to get the information out to regular people, get them to process the facts and then get them to care.

    • No way a plane with an aluminum nose can Pentwater slid steel and solid concrete. The people who wrote the magic bullet must have written this script too

  2. Donald is a sewer rat and so are the rest of them!

    DONALD TRUMP, IS A PILGRIMS SOCIETY OPERATIVE
    Presented February 2016 by Charles Savoie

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    The Pilgrims Society: A study of the Anglo- American Establishment; Rockefeller, Mellon, Luce, Rothschild, Cecil, Windsor, the Federal Reserve, WWII, the CIA, and So Much More

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    Aug 07, 2019 • The Pilgrims are dominated by a small group of families including Rockefeller, Kissinger, Rothschilds, Rhodes, Milner, Woolsey (self-styled “British and American Aristocracy” modelled on Cecil Rhodes’ British-American federation dream

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    Oct 03, 2019 • The Rockefellers were also founding members of the Pilgrims Society and financial backers of the Tavistock Institute (for psychological propaganda). In 1909, P.W. Wilson was a member of Parliament as well as parliamentary correspondent for the London Daily News (1907-1917).

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    Aug 07, 2019 • The Pilgrims are dominated by a small group of families including Rockefeller, Kissinger, Rothschilds, Rhodes, Milner, Woolsey (self-styled “British and American Aristocracy” modeled on Cecil Rhodes’ British-American federation dream

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    The Pilgrims Society has for over 113 years stood at the pinnacle of the American halls of power and remains a deep unknown to all but a few outsiders. In a sense it has always existed in that it’s sponsored by the British Royal family and the warmongering British have been careful to maintain influence circles here, the first being in 1643 with the founding of the Ancient Heraldic and Chivalric Order of Albion. Albion is an ancient name for England, separate from the usual Britannia which is what the Romans usually called it. A Roman general, Gnaeus Julius Agricola (40AD to 93AD) was responsible for most of the Roman conquest of Britain, and among his soldiers were some who had spent time in what is today Albania and northern Greece, and notice the similarity of spelling between Albania and Albion. The Romans under Agricola transported costumes—and bagpipes—to the British Isles most of two thousand years ago and undoubtedly left some of their genetics in England. The legendary Roman aggression may partially account for the English obsession with running the planet. The Ancient Heraldic and Chivalric Order of Albion, started 373 years ago, was reorganized in1883 and again in 2011. As we read at the link, italics theirs—

    “Hereditary Membership is limited to direct lineal descendants of Sir Edmund Plowden; an original member of the Order; or an ancestor from a family of known hereditary Peerage who settled, during the seventeenth century, on land within the proposed Province of New Albion in North America, and whose progeny rendered distinguished and official service in the founding of the United States of America. Membership is limited and strictly by invitation only.”

    In 1634 King Charles I gave a charter to this Plowden character to set up “New Albion,” and today we know it as New Jersey, after a later name change.

    Dr. Hardwick Smith Johnson Jr., Pilgrims Society, is the “Captain General” of the Ancient Heraldic and Chivalric Order of Albion and is a “Knight of Albion of the Conversion of the Twenty Three Kings.”

    Who were the twenty three kings? It’s uncertain whether it was a reference to ancient Babylon, or to some of the kings of the British Isles. It’s another inference that The Pilgrims Society of London and New York has all manner of ancient royal roots—bad news for civilization today, as royalty always equates to tyranny and warfare.

    Below at left is Johnson with Charles C. Lucas, another Pilgrims Society member with tons of ancient royal lineage from multiple historic dynasties. We profiled Lucas in #31 Silver Squelchers, pages 15-41—

    We also mentioned Johnson in that instalment. He descends from the Merovingian dynasty in France, which predates Charlemagne and from Charlemagne also, and from a colonial era British governor. Johnson also has ancestry back to someone who signed the Magna Charta, and to anti-Vatican French Huguenots. He also has Beresford family (Pilgrims Society) ancestry, big English real estate barons with large Manhattan holdings. As of 1765, the Saint Andrews Society was founded, which represented the interests of Scottish Presbyterians in the colonies who were British Crown loyalists. In 1770, the Saint George’s Society was founded, which was an alliance of loyalist English centered around New York. There was a roster of 150 prominent New Yorkers who lobbied for the establishment of the first United States Bank (in 1791, British allied) and when I uncover those identities, I expect to encounter members of those last two societies. Current head of the Saint George’s Society is The Duke of Gloucester (Pilgrims Society). We mentioned the Beresfords, and a member of that family is in the management of the Saint George’s Society. The Order of Albion is harder to trace and I believe it hasn’t been the main British front here for some generations. As of January 1903, The Pilgrims Society in New York represented the focal point of British influence in America. It has a heavy interlock with the Saint George’s and the Saint Andrews Societies.

    Donald Trump is known as a Presbyterian. Is Donald Trump a member of The Pilgrims Society? I believe so, same as I believe it about Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, George Soros, David Rockefeller Jr., Timothy Mellon, Matt Mellon II, Bill Dudley of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, and on and on, including Generals, Admirals, Ambassadors, occasionally a New York or New Jersey Governor, several key Senators and Cabinet officials and always directors of the megabanks, investment banks, big corporations, defense industry, key university and research institution trustees and some old-line, large inheritors who are almost always out of public view.

    • TRUMP is in the hands of a cabal called Black Sun..like Black rock, Black cube Black eagle ..look what has control of the Fed Blackrock. This is the kosher Nazi faction RepubliNazis like Bush 1& 2! The Demonrats fall under the Kosher Commies like Rothchilds Hollywood the Media Clintons etc. These 2 satanic cabals seem to be fighting it out for control. Sure they swing back and forth into each other’s camp from time to time BUT be sure neither gives a rats ass about us! Why do you think tRUMPS “team” resembles GWBush-Scherf Nazis “team”? If Biden gets in he will have a kosher Commy team recycled from Clintons and Obummer

  3. “Rudy’s father, one Harold Giuliani, was a felon, according to author Wayne Barrett in his book “Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani” (2000). Harold and an accomplice held up a milk deliverer in Manhattan on April 2, 1934. He was caught, and the courts convicted him of third-degree robbery.

    The court-appointed psychiatrist reported that Harold was “a personality deviate of the aggressive, egocentric type…. pathological” with “haphazard associations.””

    A look around at a few additional sources will bring up the basic idea that Harold was sometimes employed by the mob as a contract leg breaker (this is common knowledge for many New Yorkers).

    I had forgotten about that video of him and Trump. Now the nightmares may return; thanks Winter Watch. (kidding)

  4. So I said to RW, I was going to sit this one out and I did mean it; however, I recalled seeing something that is not exactly on Mr. Mueller’s topic and fine thread, but interesting none the less.

    This is Rudy’s kid Andrew:

    Guaranteed you will be seeing this loud mouthed kid in the future and more than likely in office.

    NYC is just not what it used to be, and it does make old Simple quite sad.

    Be well everyone at WW.

    Best,
    SC

  5. I just searched for internet archive page saves for local New York news outlets for 2001. None had any entry for 9/11/01. Some had way more saved pages for 2000 than in 2001. Several had lots of saves from a week or so after the “attacks” and in the following months. Odd, as it should be considered important historical documentation (unless there’s some reason they’d want to hide it…) Seems like it it’s been scrubbed. Perhaps local press reported something that contradicts the official narrative? I’ve heard people mention there were reports in the local press about explosions in the basements and that the highjacked planes narrative appeared when the national/global news took over later on.

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